jtravis711

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Orange County
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Message Posted: Oct 4, 2012 10:56:13 AM
If its true that the government backing of these companies for so called energy independence was due in part to the political contributions to Obamma is very revealing....can the same be said for the banks that are backed by the government to big to fail?? This is not government support of our free market system but intervention thats detrimental to all of us.
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remay

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Houston
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Message Posted: Oct 4, 2012 8:05:57 AM
And those responsible will most-likely NOT be reprimanded.
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qwerty17

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New Jersey
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Message Posted: Oct 4, 2012 7:58:47 AM
in a down economy, you cannot gamble on pie in the sky ideals.
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MAC48

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Dallas
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Message Posted: Oct 3, 2012 11:51:22 PM
The really important question is how does the taxpayer keep governments at all levels from wasting tax dollars for economically unjustifiable spending on alternative electrical energy generation technology until such time that the alternative electrical energy can be produced at the lowest cost of any other possible method of electricity generation available.
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LilRedWagonIN

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Indiana
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Message Posted: Oct 3, 2012 11:39:29 PM
Is half of them going bankrupt an abnormally high percentage? Does the high percentage of them having given campaign contributions to this administration have any connection?
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mpg611

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Cleveland
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Message Posted: Oct 3, 2012 11:24:18 PM
Like we can afford that right now...........
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rahcat

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Grand Rapids
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Message Posted: Oct 3, 2012 11:11:57 PM
Taxpayer hard earned money sucked into a black hole.
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gaspumpin

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Indiana
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Message Posted: Oct 3, 2012 11:10:41 PM
Billions that could have been put to better use.
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Aviator_Rob

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New York
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Message Posted: Oct 3, 2012 11:01:13 PM
And while everyone here is griping about LOAN GUARANTEES, China continues to pump $35 billion per year in outright GRANTS!
All for the purpose of dumping below cost solar panels on the world market. Their goal? To corner the market and be a leader in green technology.
Everyone here really think we should just bend over for China?
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DutchTreatMI

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Grand Rapids
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Message Posted: Oct 3, 2012 10:58:07 PM
Too many failed Solar Companies.
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clermont40miles

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Cincinnati
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Message Posted: Oct 3, 2012 10:57:22 PM
Huge amount of money.
The technology works but is very expensive. And takes a lot of area to generate little power.
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mstearno

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Dayton
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Message Posted: Oct 3, 2012 10:56:19 PM
expensive to quote Romney he's picking looseres
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suicyco16

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Phoenix
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Message Posted: Oct 3, 2012 10:55:07 PM
yup
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Mowerman08

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Milwaukee
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Message Posted: Oct 3, 2012 10:54:11 PM
WHAT A WASTE of taxpayer money and addition to the National debt!
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OOXXFF

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Greensboro
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Message Posted: Oct 3, 2012 10:53:06 PM
I hope that investment pays off in new, renewable, green energy.
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greatartiste

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New Jersey
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Message Posted: Oct 3, 2012 10:52:50 PM
actual solar installations will provide cost/pollution reduction over time.
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frostyWV

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West Virginia
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Message Posted: Oct 3, 2012 10:51:35 PM
ok
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joeschmo12

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New York
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Message Posted: Oct 3, 2012 10:50:56 PM
these solar projects should've been done by now...
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MDTDriver

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California
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Message Posted: Oct 3, 2012 10:49:20 PM
Why is the deficit to high.
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hcivic

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Virginia
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Message Posted: Oct 3, 2012 10:47:34 PM
ok
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hpow

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Vancouver
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Message Posted: Oct 3, 2012 10:40:02 PM
crazy
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bonzoonfmb

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Florida
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Message Posted: Oct 3, 2012 10:38:57 PM
Billions spent, negative return. Good job.
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Gas4Gore

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Detroit
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Message Posted: Oct 3, 2012 10:37:00 PM
This will not happen after Romney is in office as President.
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Pauline579

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North Carolina
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Message Posted: Oct 3, 2012 10:36:38 PM
Another article about government wasteful spending
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txkrb

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Texas
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Message Posted: Oct 3, 2012 10:34:50 PM
I have yet to hear about a single one of these project being successful
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FogCitySpotter

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San Francisco
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Message Posted: Oct 3, 2012 10:34:03 PM
Still not ready for prime time
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txkrb

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Texas
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Message Posted: Oct 3, 2012 10:33:52 PM
Wasted money To enstein (in name only) Trickle down worked in the 80s Higher taxes will never improve the economy, the more you are taxed the less you have to spend (in the economy) and less to invest in the economy and for those who say G.W. Bush favored the wealthy, his tax cuts were the largest in history for lower income groups, thanks to the Bush tax cuts a family of 4 making $42,000 a year pays ZERO income taxes Prior to the Bush tax cuts they would have paid over $2,500 in federal income taxes, that is a tax cut of 100% for the lower income families
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wayoung56

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Alabama
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Message Posted: Oct 3, 2012 10:33:14 PM
More taxpayer money down the drain...
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dirt girl

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Twin Cities
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Message Posted: Oct 3, 2012 10:32:29 PM
How quickly you all forget. We would have had more altenative energy options back as early as the 70's but when Reagan "trickle down economics" got elected, he scraped a lot of the funding for solar and wind.
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papagee55

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South Carolina
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Message Posted: Oct 3, 2012 10:30:11 PM
ok on with the money....
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abacus44

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Toms River
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Message Posted: Oct 3, 2012 10:29:06 PM
Research and development is an investment, however throwing money at companies that your advisors warned you were bound to fail isn't investment, it's borderline criminal, especially when you are making those loans to campaign cronies.
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yorkygurl2008

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Indiana
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Message Posted: Oct 3, 2012 10:28:42 PM
I SEE !!!!!!!
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SavALot

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Virginia Beach
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Message Posted: Oct 3, 2012 10:27:52 PM
The energy source is so abundant let's hope it's utilized properly
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Enstein

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Lansing
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Message Posted: Oct 3, 2012 10:27:43 PM
Mr. Obama is the man for 4 more years. Mitt is a loser with no ideals except the failed trickle down that never trickled down. We all know Bush, Cheney and crowd screwed up and left a mess. OBAMA 2012.
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FunMyster

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Indiana
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Message Posted: Oct 3, 2012 10:27:14 PM
ya
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30mpg80

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Lexington
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Message Posted: Oct 3, 2012 10:26:55 PM
The Daily Caller? Be careful, you might get very dizzy from the spin!
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danreino

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Twin Cities
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Message Posted: Oct 3, 2012 10:26:49 PM
$900 Billion funneled to China...Thanks for playing ;(
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WIPACKERFAN

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Chicago
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Message Posted: Oct 3, 2012 10:26:46 PM
This is totally rediculous.
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gd83goldwinger

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South Bend
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Message Posted: Oct 3, 2012 10:25:24 PM
Government waste, what they should be doing is getting a loan pay back guarantee from these companys. If he gets in it will be twice fold and no one be working except in the service sector.
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goodbuy

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Michigan
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Message Posted: Oct 3, 2012 10:19:34 PM
I can eliminate unemployment tomorrow. Eliminate all unemployment benefits and if no one is collecting, 0% unemployment. THAT is how Romney will do it. He sure ain't going to find people jobs. After all, 47% of us expect the government to take care of us. Romney's words. I hope they are true if he gets elected. Romney can take care of 47% of the population because that is about how many of us will not have a job.
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1WI

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Appleton
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Message Posted: Oct 3, 2012 10:17:15 PM
"Tell me one area where Paul Ryan and Sarah Palin would disagree? I cannot find one area. So somehow he's the smartest guy in the party and she's the stupidest woman on earth, but they agree on everything."
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scubadaniel

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Dayton
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Message Posted: Oct 3, 2012 10:15:57 PM
Hey Einstein.. of the 2 people running for president, which never help a job in the private sector? Private high school, very expensive colleges (who paid for those) and community organizing jobs... NOTHING in the private sector for Obama.
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goldrose1

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Cleveland
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Message Posted: Oct 3, 2012 10:12:09 PM
Politicians throwing our tax dollars around, expecting that they can influence businesses and an entire sector of the world economy. Maybe they can. Some times. Doesn't seem like it makes much difference except an excuse to raise taxes, indemnify our children and grand children with national debt.
As in poker, I wonder if they've gone "all in," yet.
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Enstein

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Lansing
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Message Posted: Oct 3, 2012 10:11:35 PM
If Romney gets in we will not need energy as most will not be able to pay for it. Romney is another Bush, family sponged off taxpayers all his life and everything given to him. OBAMA 2012.
[Edited by: Enstein at 10/3/2012 11:12:57 PM EST]
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serrog

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Nova Scotia
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Message Posted: Oct 3, 2012 10:03:26 PM
ok
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John747

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Chicago
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Message Posted: Oct 3, 2012 10:02:14 PM
Just another way the government wastes taxpayer money.
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mrbee

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Little Rock
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Message Posted: Oct 3, 2012 9:59:15 PM
More waste.
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camel1

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Minnesota
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Message Posted: Oct 3, 2012 9:58:05 PM
ok
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DarthDadJr

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Virginia
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Message Posted: Oct 3, 2012 9:58:02 PM
...about the same went to the oil industry last year...that didn't get you anything either.
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Mikeyl

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Cleveland
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Message Posted: Oct 3, 2012 9:57:09 PM
More of the "trickle-down government" that Romney was talking about in the debate tonight.
Is this really the right path? Should government be leading the way or should private enterprise take the lead?
I think you know who your candidate is based upon your answer to that question.
And, the fate of our country rests on your shoulders. Consider your options wisely.
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