ExplorerWA

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Washington
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Message Posted: Jun 28, 2012 10:07:24 PM
I don't believe it.
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bwatchingu

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Arkansas
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Message Posted: Jun 28, 2012 4:34:32 PM
I could make up a bunch of numbers too.I guess it makes them feel smart?!
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fajeff01

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Atlanta
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Message Posted: Jun 28, 2012 4:10:07 PM
Great!
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jimedB

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Riverside
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Message Posted: Jun 28, 2012 1:52:45 PM
This report comes from the center for American progress A FAR left wing group whose only purpose is to spread dubious information enough that we the people assume it must be true. We need to quit falling for this trash.
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EMoe57

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Jacksonville
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Message Posted: Jun 28, 2012 12:44:06 PM
yeah, i'm sure somebody will track and report this in the year 2030
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zachlCA

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California
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Message Posted: Jun 28, 2012 12:26:23 PM
If the Sierra club produced or even helped put this report together you know its junk.
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mitt4prez

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Tacoma
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Message Posted: Jun 28, 2012 11:50:10 AM
Creating bureaucrats, and jobs in captive industries that win their business by participating in this extortion = winning platform for The Won and his Lapdog Press.
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VomVom

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Calgary
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Message Posted: Jun 28, 2012 9:53:47 AM
One can spin it the way one wants. It is going to happen way into the future.
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ktyson13

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Maryland
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Message Posted: Jun 28, 2012 9:41:48 AM
I'm sure Obama will take create for creating more jobs by increasing regulation.
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egd

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Twin Cities
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Message Posted: Jun 28, 2012 9:20:03 AM
win win
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fracknsave

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Grand Rapids
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Message Posted: Jun 28, 2012 9:00:13 AM
and speaking of bovine excrement...
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afghaned

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Hamilton
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Message Posted: Jun 28, 2012 8:02:45 AM
Sounds like the Ontario premier claiming green jobs will be created. He forgot to say where because they sure aren't happening in Ontario!!!
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TheMeltz

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Maryland
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Message Posted: Jun 28, 2012 7:49:03 AM
ok
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putz247

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Ohio
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Message Posted: Jun 28, 2012 7:40:49 AM
doubt it
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sljbc475

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Tucson
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Message Posted: Jun 28, 2012 7:39:09 AM
I highly doubt it with this administration in charge.
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dm9667_23

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Pennsylvania
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Message Posted: Jun 28, 2012 7:38:17 AM
Don't believe it. They talk about jobs that 'could' be created, but what about potential jobs lost? I am all for the higher mileage standard, but what happens to the gas stations when people aren't going there as often? They make their money off the sales of snacks, drinks, etc, and what will the impact be on them and their suppliers if they lose a portion of their customers for the simple reason that they don't 'have' to go there? Maybe it is negligible, but I often wonder why estimates on how many jobs 'could' be created never mention the possible jobs that 'could' be lost.
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lkozark

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Missouri
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Message Posted: Jun 28, 2012 7:38:11 AM
Let me see if I get this, proposals made in 2011 will start creating jobs in 2017 and end with creating 570,000 jobs by 2030.
Too bad they didn't make those proposals six years ago. It might be having an impact today.
[Edited by: lkozark at 6/28/2012 8:38:32 AM EST]
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run4gxc

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Ohio
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Message Posted: Jun 28, 2012 7:36:43 AM
ok
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Clits

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Louisiana
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Message Posted: Jun 28, 2012 7:36:31 AM
Yea, B.S..
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RedskinGas

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Tennessee
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Message Posted: Jun 28, 2012 7:31:43 AM
Sounds like a group of lefties blowing smoke.
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snell snail

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Atlanta
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Message Posted: Jun 28, 2012 7:30:42 AM
...interesting consortium of stakeholders on this issue.......
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scu227

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New Haven
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Message Posted: Jun 28, 2012 7:30:02 AM
And how many will be lost in the meantime, afterall it is almost 20 years away and only an estimate of what could be created.
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oldred11

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Indianapolis
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Message Posted: Jun 28, 2012 7:30:01 AM
Do we really have any reason to trust these jobs projections?
First, the real jobs are high tech requiring more education than the unemployed masses have and the second portion of jobs depend on the comnsumer spending money saved to grow the economy. Those are phantom jobs and I rest my case.
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Jizme

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Lincoln
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Message Posted: Jun 28, 2012 7:29:33 AM
Bla, bla, bla, whatever. Go Blow Smoke somewhere else.
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Hugo40

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Kentucky
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Message Posted: Jun 28, 2012 7:28:17 AM
Just another report.
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HoosierDaddyKY

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Kentucky
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Message Posted: Jun 28, 2012 7:28:15 AM
Too easy to project job growth 18 years in the future. Can throw out any figure you want.
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yelobus

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Houston
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Message Posted: Jun 28, 2012 7:28:12 AM
Good.
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buzzieNY

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Buffalo
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Message Posted: Jun 28, 2012 7:27:51 AM
Sounds like politcal propaganda to me!!!
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must87searcher

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Maryland
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Message Posted: Jun 28, 2012 7:27:26 AM
Interesting idea, but there is still a lot of questions too it. There could be some data/ideas which may be left out which could lead to change.
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freedomsailor

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Naples
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Message Posted: Jun 28, 2012 7:27:08 AM
When or if 2030 comes around, this report will not be valid.
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plbell627

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Dayton
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Message Posted: Jun 28, 2012 7:26:51 AM
OBOZZO has to have a hand it his artice as he is trying to get re-elected.
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cricket48750

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Michigan
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Message Posted: Jun 28, 2012 7:26:50 AM
No matter the inconvenience, we cannot afford to ignore environmental impact.
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RetFireLT

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Kentucky
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Message Posted: Jun 28, 2012 7:26:42 AM
Don't believe it.
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nru

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Twin Cities
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Message Posted: Jun 28, 2012 7:26:27 AM
Great - then we can stop funding the terrorists (where do they get their money anyhow) and drive as much or more as we do right now
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Ready Eddie

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Twin Cities
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Message Posted: Jun 28, 2012 7:26:12 AM
Promise what cannot be verified. The work of obummer.
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Red7002011

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Mississippi
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Message Posted: Jun 28, 2012 7:25:45 AM
Really!
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Sam1004

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Indianapolis
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Message Posted: Jun 28, 2012 7:25:23 AM
At what cost???? Lost jobs in other industries?
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krzysiek_ck

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Illinois
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Message Posted: Jun 28, 2012 7:25:13 AM
Last time I checked it is 2012 and we need jobs today.
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1stClicker

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Texas
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Message Posted: Jun 28, 2012 7:24:33 AM
Consider from source of the reports.
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SSchmidty

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Illinois
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Message Posted: Jun 28, 2012 7:24:28 AM
But the bigger question is how MANY jobs will the continued high gas pump prices from pig-oil industry cause to go away BECAUSE of greed on their part impacting all aspects of commerce?
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pmc3

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Missouri
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Message Posted: Jun 28, 2012 7:24:16 AM
Sounds like politcal propaganda to me!!!
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MVP1

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New York
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Message Posted: Jun 28, 2012 7:23:37 AM
How many jobs will be lost in other related segments due to the changes? Jobs related to fuel trucking, tank maintenance, pump manufacturing and maintenance, etc., will decrease with the $68 billion sales decline.
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oilrobber

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Miami
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Message Posted: Jun 28, 2012 7:21:51 AM
Look at the groups behind this. That should tell you something right there....can you say Liberal Propaganda!
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TKRAP

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Cincinnati
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Message Posted: Jun 28, 2012 7:19:57 AM
that's great for 5 years from now .. the liberals will tout this as a job creater now and then again in 5 years. This creates only 31k jobs per year or 2500 per month.
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Beboper

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Virginia
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Message Posted: Jun 28, 2012 7:19:34 AM
we need jobs now
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foggiest1

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Wilmington
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Message Posted: Jun 28, 2012 7:19:20 AM
ok
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BigBearHug

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Amarillo
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Message Posted: Jun 28, 2012 7:19:04 AM
so
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Drill4Petro

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Illinois
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Message Posted: Jun 28, 2012 7:18:40 AM
Left-wing dreaming here. The new standards will probably cost 570,000 jobs.
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Bus936

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Lexington
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Message Posted: Jun 28, 2012 7:18:20 AM
Oh my goodness, I will be about ninety then, do you reckon that I could obtain one of these fine jobs?
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rippinusoff

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Lexington
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Message Posted: Jun 28, 2012 7:18:18 AM
not enough
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